Student Doctor's Answer to Elisa Lam's Unexplained Death

Hey guys this is Shaman and today we’re going to talk about the elisa lam disappearance and death and with a more medical approach. Drug half life, metabolism, autopsy report, toxicology results, psychiatric medication, bipolar disorder and its medications, we’re diving into all of it! Buckle in cause this is gonna get pretty scientific. If you want more mysteries uncovered by medicine, let me know in the comments below!

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Sources:
http://www.forensicsciencesimplified.org/tox/how.html
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19015628

https://www.dovepress.com/interpreting-postmortem-drug-analysis-and-redistribution-in-determinin-peer-reviewed-fulltext-article-PLMI
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3181868/
https://journals.lww.com/hrpjournal/Abstract/2014/11000/Stimulants_for_Treating_Bipolar_Disorder___Pro_and.9.aspx
https://www.pdf-archive.com/2014/02/24/el-autopsy/
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1081/CLT-120018270?src=recsys&journalCode=ictx19
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/bipolar-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20355955
https://jcp.bmj.com/content/53/4/282
https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/3amnrx/resolved_elisa_lam_long_link_heavy/
https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/260041-what-happened-to-elisa-lam/
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MedBros
MedBros:
Hey everyone thanks for watching! Let me know if you prefer all of the medical details for future videos; I'm always trying to find the right balance between simplicity and too much detail! Also if you want more mysteries, etc explained by medicine let me know!
Gotstuff Stoppa
Gotstuff Stoppa:
That's not the only camera in the hotel, there is something the hotel owners don't want the people to see.
Vito Corleone
Vito Corleone:
- Why was she on the 14th floor?
- Where’s the footage of her going up to 14th floor?
- Why was the ladder and roof door not checked for fingerprints to determine which she used?
- Why didn’t they go in depth about the girls she was staying with, outlining she had odd behaviour so much so, that she had to move rooms?
Fae Winter
Fae Winter:
Murder or not, it’s still equally as freaky because the mystery behind the works of the mind can be scary. It’s also intriguing as all heck.
Illumi Fn
Illumi Fn:
It’s creepy knowing that somebody knows exactly what happened
Shayna Kasdan
Shayna Kasdan:
1) the elevator door never closes even after minutes of her not being in front of the door
2) how could she close herself in the water tower?
Blueberry Cow
Blueberry Cow:
I think someone was following her, and she tried to get in the elevator to get away from them. I also think the person that was following her was a hotel employee, and that’s why the hotel didn’t show any more footage than the one in the elevator. You can see her hide in the elevator for a second, and peek her head out a couple times to see if the person was still there. The hotel employee knew how to turn off the alarms, and that’s why they didn’t go off. She then started doing weird hand movements in the video, and it looked as though she was talking to someone. Since it was maybe a hotel owner that was following her, she could have tried to act normal and not freaked out and asked about why the elevator wasn’t working. They then could have told her to take the stairs, and kept following her, then chased her up to the roof and drowned her. I got some ideas from other comments. Possibly the hotel owner? It would explain why everything seems so discreetly covered up by the hotel.
Dr Luiz Pirès - Harmonização Facial Avançada
Dr Luiz Pirès - Harmonização Facial Avançada:
"Bipolar people take their clothes off and put back on"

Everyone does that, you just don't jump into water tanks and shut it after that!
Brenda Leverick
Brenda Leverick:
If they didn't find the ladder at the water tower when her body was found, then it wasn't suicide.
Mellrocks
Mellrocks:
It’s creepy how she is making swimming motions outside the elevator......then ends up in a large tank full of water...
Aidyn Byrne
Aidyn Byrne:
she seems very distressed in the elevator she definitely felt like someone was coming to get her or something. Her hand movements and her body language shows it
moniquemonicat
moniquemonicat:
Her hand gestures don't look strange at all when you figure out she's trying to see if the elevator has invisible sensors. Those of us who travel a lot do run into elevators like that and the only way to know is the wave your hands around the front of it. That's exactly what it looks like she's doing.
Srkb
Srkb:
I'm disappointed with the police, they check every cupboards in the hotel, go all the way up the roof but not checking the water tank.
Many murdered bodies were put in water tank everywhere in the world. Police shld hv known this.
Alicia Peeples
Alicia Peeples:
Another theory: The part where shes hiding in the corner, she definitely saw something or someone. Plus the elevator wasnt working. So she went to go ask for help from someone that works there, and the person she asked probably knew that Elisa discovered something and didnt want Elisa to expose the hotel. So the worker told her that she can take the stairs, (as in "oh..the elevator isnt working? You can take the stairs)and led her to the rooftop. (Because theres no cameras there). Then knocked Elisa out and put her into the tank.
Just a theory.
Kola
Kola :
dude this story used to freak me out so hard when it first came out
even with scientific reasoning to explain it, theres something so eerie about it all.
Kenma Kozume
Kenma Kozume:
but why didn’t the elevator door close? it stayed open for a good couple minutes
Tirzah van der Lee
Tirzah van der Lee:
I'm sure I'm not the only one reading the comments to not get completely freaked out by this
권복
권복:
The people who drank the ‘dirty water’ and found out a dead human body got mixed with it: 🤢
mari benzo
mari benzo:
I honestly deep down inside of me feel like somebody murdered her . Somebody who worked at the hotel knows and I bet it was an employee that did it
Stephen Key
Stephen Key:
Six yrs later and that silent video is disturbing as hell
Noah Bertella
Noah Bertella:
Her hands and arms in the video make me think it was most DEFINITELY paranormal.
KrissyRose Animallover2021
KrissyRose Animallover2021:
Today 7 years ago she went missing may she Rest In Peace
PROUD WHITE CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN STRAIGHT MAN!
PROUD WHITE CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN STRAIGHT MAN!:
There has to be more cameras than just this one.
Kazuha hattori
Kazuha hattori:
It always freaked me out that the elevator door didn’t close like normal. I think she was on Scooby snacks.
chibi-ami
chibi-ami:
During cases like these I really wish I could ask them what happened to get the truth
Jennifer Tindle
Jennifer Tindle:
The manager knows more than what she is saying
Ezura
Ezura:
I’ve always found it surprising that her family allowed her to travel alone unless they secretly hoped she’d have an accident as she was found to be a burden or an embarrassment. Traditional Chinese families tend to be heavily overprotective and mental health issues are also not really understood and thus carry a stigma to them.
Other questions I have are if she’s having a manic episode then why is she not exhibiting the manic behaviour on her daily visits to the book shop, the clerk who served her regularly described her as friendly and behaving as normal? What was on the missing 54 seconds of security footage deleted by hotel staff? Why did the K9 not pick up her scent on the roof leading to the water towers and thus backtrack how she got there? Apparently they only picked up her scent on the window ledge on one of the floors. Why was she sharing a room with strangers if she’s unwell? Could the obviously prejudiced roommates have tampered with her medication in a malicious prank? Was one of them a racist predator? Apparently nothing was asked of these roommates as they were foreign tourists and were allowed to leave the country without any interrogation.
Blatantly the police did a shoddy job, they saw her medications and medical history and just wiped it off as an accident without bothering to investigate fully. Perhaps there was a guest with powerful connections in the hotel and they were paid off not to investigate further in order to protect their privacy. After all she’s just a little Chinese kid with mental problems, who cares what happened to her?
Praveena Tandoc
Praveena Tandoc:
if you look closely at the elevator doors, it feels as if something is making the doors open. look closely from 4:52
Clown Baby
Clown Baby:
How is this the only clip of her. There has to be more cameras in the hotel.
Hazhand Azhin
Hazhand Azhin:
But this also makes my danger sensors tingle i don’t know why
Lady Midnight
Lady Midnight:
That's clearly not the only camera in all of the hotel, there's going to be other cameras in the hotel.
Dennis Espiritu
Dennis Espiritu:
By the time you read this comment, you've probably watched the Netflix documentary already 😅
Claire Harrison
Claire Harrison:
You can clearly see when she jumps out of the elevator she is expecting something or someone to be there, the way she suddenly stops and looks slightly disappointed...
David Marshall
David Marshall:
I would double check with those roommates that complained!
Travel Bird
Travel Bird:
There is about to be a 4 part docuseries released on Netflix about this case. It will be interesting to see what is revealed.
Wanderlust Rachel
Wanderlust Rachel:
"People with bipolar disorder take their clothes off and put them back on"
Oh no! I must have bipolar disorder 😶😆
Miguel
Miguel:
Anybody who's in hard drugs or simply have an ill mind can still see something that we cannot see.
Mena_Lovely 8113
Mena_Lovely 8113:
You can tell the footage was edited by the way it’s covered
Isabel Reyes
Isabel Reyes:
I think she had a manic episode and thought someone was chasing her and ran into the tank. Some incompetent maintenance worker saw the lid and put it back without looking in the tank.
MILWAUKEE MOTOR
MILWAUKEE MOTOR:
i think she panicked when the elevator doors didn't close
HatchMaster308
HatchMaster308:
Someone please explain the part where there was a TB outbreak a few days after she was found in the tank, there was a TB lab at her college in BC and the test for TB is called a Lam-Elisa........ and y'all thought cv 19 was sketch
TT DE NADA ABBA
TT DE NADA ABBA:
Considering the history of this Hotel, I am not surprised as to what happened to this student 🤔
isthatbre
isthatbre:
At this point this case literally just makes my fucking head hurt. Seriously, and that’s on some word to Kenneka Jenkins shit. WHAT EVEN ARE WE LOOKING AT? Everything about all of this is just STRANGE. LORD! Also Netflix said what up y’all.
John Arnie D. Mercado
John Arnie D. Mercado:
That silent clip will always be creepy. It's like it came out straight from the dark web.
MILWAUKEE MOTOR
MILWAUKEE MOTOR:
how would a woman in a foreign destination even think to locate the exit, the roof, and the tank who was having a manic episode
Miranda Nicole
Miranda Nicole:
It’s possible she was having an episode and her murderer took advantage of her being in a suggestible state of mind and used it to their advantage. People just use the bipolar disorder to overlook all the odd circumstances of this case
psychotic bread
psychotic bread:
THE HOTEL DEFINITELY KNOW SOMETHING.
Victoria Mejia
Victoria Mejia:
I honestly believe she was on a bad trip and walked herself in the tank just wandering around wherever stairs or any kind way out of there 😔so sad rip
Roger Wakemup
Roger Wakemup:
I used to have panic attacks like this. I would do really strange things, flick light switches, wander, stop and stare blankly, i really wouldnt know what i was doing. Its a horrible experience and it feels like it wont end. I could see how suicide would come into play
Sophia Nicole
Sophia Nicole:
They had said they missed it yet they had a helicopter over the building shining light how would they not see the lid “open”
Jeremiah Skates
Jeremiah Skates:
My biggest concern and question is why that water tank doesn’t have a lock on it ? Like anyone has access to the roof and anyone can just open everyone’s water supply? Yeah let me just go poison the entire buildings water supply !!! Every building owner needs to get theirs checked ASAP!! should be a law !!! By god if that were to happen the owner should be held accountable as well as the criminal.
dj331205
dj331205:
"Earlier her roommates did say that she was exhibiting odd behavior"

What roommates? Why is there so much conflicting information throughout this case??
Eleanor Svenson
Eleanor Svenson:
You were proven right. She was acting erratically for days. Leaving weird confrontational notes to strangers. She was bipolar and hadn’t been taking her prescriptions as prescribed. She was skipping her meds. The video shows her reaction to a hallucination. The door to the roof was supposed to trigger an alarm when opened but it often didn’t go off. Pizza boxes and beer were all over the roof- people obviously could get on the roof easily. Aaaaaand the lid to the water tank was not closed as previously reported. The hotel employee who found her said it was open. So her disease the low doses of her prescription, the fact she was alone despite being vulnerable in a strange city- all led to her demise.
stinky spider
stinky spider:
this case makes no sense
Redcap
Redcap:
The lid was open, but the police didn't find her body when they originally looked on the roof... Yeah, right.
mvrcirrie
mvrcirrie:
there were cameras. everywhere. and, there was so much security to get to the water tanks. theyre hiding something.
YouTube Best
YouTube Best:
WE NEED TO SEE ALL THE VIDEOS THE NIGHT SHE WENT TO 15 floor DOES NOT MATTER WETHER SHE IS IN THE CAMERA OR NOT
Carrie O
Carrie O:
I bet it's the security guard at the front desk. They always are watching you. Watch in the dark "Down" on hulu. Pretty gnarly. Sadly we will never truly know what exactly happened to her. And that's just sad. No one should stayed at the hotel. Your making money for the company to stay open.
G0ddess Kelly
G0ddess Kelly:
I'm bipolar. She looks like she might be reacting to the malfunctioning elevator like I would've. The going into the corner, I might've done that, thinking the sensor was screwy & over-sensing me. Trying to get waaay outta the way of it. The looking out of the elevator like shes looking for someone... probably trying to see if there was anyone out there that might be also triggering the sensor. Or, we cant hear anything so maybe she just heard an odd noise & was checking it out. Then the way she looks like she's talking to herself/someone, if this was going on with me I'd be like, "ooooook, why wont this thing close, come on..."
Idk, just my thoughts. I definitely think the water tank thing is messed up & I really hope there's a definitive answer soon. I feel bad for the poor girl.
Arii
Arii:
With her size she couldn’t have climbed in that tank and closed the lid herself. Water tanks are usually about 165 feet (50 meters), however the tank in the footage was a 4 by 8, either way, 8 feet *tall* and 4 feet *wide*. she would have fell in before she could have closed the lid herself. SOMEONE threw her in there. Even the workers Had to use a Latter to look at the water, she did not close that lid herself. *The tanks were also filled with 1,000-gallon (3,785 L) of water* so she probably couldn’t swim to the surface with her size, you agree ?

Look at how she’s standing in the video, it looks like she’s *hiding or running from someone ?* And even that hotels have many cameras around the building, so the place is hiding something, I’m sure you’ve been to a hotel before and have seen cameras, the black ball ones hanging from the ceiling ? *They are lying.*

“ There was *no* evidence of physical trauma, sexual assault,[34][35] or *suicide*.[34] Toxicology tests – *incomplete* because not enough of her *blood was preserved* – *showed traces consistent with prescription medication found among her belongings, plus nonprescription drugs such as Sinutab and ibuprofen.[36] A very small quantity of alcohol (about 0.02 g%) was present, but no other recreational drugs* “ Do you see how suspicious this is ?
TheOnlyGarby
TheOnlyGarby:
it was definitely time traveling lizard people.
better.øff'd
better.øff'd:
Gotta love that slight jump-cut of the footage after she exits left.
marrion moon
marrion moon:
I love that he said "he fell in"
ROBIONE
ROBIONE:
What I don’t understand is that after the detectives saw this video they knew she never left the hotel...They supposedly conducted a search of the entire hotel.. The police dog followed the scent to the fire escape.. They suspected she might have went to the roof ..So they never checked the water tower ??..That’s some pretty sloppy police work
Jason Heesch
Jason Heesch:
With all the medications that she was talking she should not have been left alone.
Popeye Sailorman
Popeye Sailorman:
Hey MedBros, you're talking about Medication(s)/Drug(s) in a system over 12-30 hours. She was Missing for 20 days. The accuracy & toxicology reports are inconclusive since it's been over 20 days.
Jordie Jordan
Jordie Jordan:
*The fact that guests theo hotel
Is drank water from the faucet came from the water tanks on top of the hotel where her body was eventually discovered is way more horrifying then the actual case itself*
Kenny
Kenny:
Every few months I remember this story and I spend hours trying to find an answer. It freaks me tf out
Gunnar Tebo
Gunnar Tebo:
When he started talking after the clip I got scared shitless
Kim Centofanti
Kim Centofanti:
Everyone knows that hotel is haunted. Check out the dark shadow on the elevator door
Charlotte Gachoud
Charlotte Gachoud:
They way she moves and acts really makes me think of my psychotic, bipolar neighbours who was fixated on me and would harass, stalk and attack me almost every day so yeah I agree.
Aage152
Aage152:
Time index[some 6 minutes into the film]: Are we hallucinating
when we ask:
Why doesn't the door to the elevator close, if she pressed the
buttons for several stores?
What about .. when she is out of the elevator for a time,
that should be - more than long enough - for the door to close?
 
CAN it be a person, that we cannot see - but the electronics can
discover .. and therefore keeps the door open?
Evan Ray
Evan Ray:
I do not believe that Elisa’s death has a normal explanation...
John Drain
John Drain:
I'm no expert, but that lift video definitely looks like a manic episode, highly excited, babbling to herself, I don't think you can really find reasoning when it comes to why she went to the roof, maybe she had a strong impulse to swim to calm herself, at the height of her episode maybe she just wanted that sensory experience of the water on her skin..and then maybe had a seizure in the water, or just fell asleep in an exhausted state.
Joshua Xiong
Joshua Xiong:
Well, no one mentioned what time she was in the elevator. I want to know what time she entered the elevator and what time she left the elevator.
William Reilly
William Reilly:
There must be another camera in that hallway of the elevator at some angle to see a better view.
Heaven J
Heaven J:
4:08 Thank God. For a second I thought you believed in that
Razel Valdez
Razel Valdez:
Why did i clicked and watched this at night?! Ugh now i can't sleep..
Red Panda
Red Panda:
Yeah, no way was it an accident, you can't accidently fall in a locked, super tall water tank with a heavy lid. It's a murder and the hotel (that has a history of murders) are covering it up. Proof of that is the fact that the elevator video has been tampered with- it cuts near the end of the video
ML P
ML P:
Family confirms that she was taking medications for bipolar depression and also taking an antipsychotic. She has a Hx of not taking her meds which caused her to be delusional, hallucinate, and have erratic behavior . She was 21-yrs old which is around the common age range for schizophrenia to surface. I am sure she had it given her hallucinations seen talking to someone in the video clip.

When she accidentally pressed the elevator hold button, she couldn’t figure it out and went to the fire escape to try to get to her floor and room. On her way to finding her floor, her mental instability led her to the roof where she saw the water tanks. Her delusions and hallucinations fed her curiosity and she went there. Removed her clothes because in her mental state that is common among psych pts. Or maybe did not want to wet her clothes but threw her clothes anyway before going in the water b/c she was not in the right state of mind. What is erratic behavior to is, makes sense to her in her own reality.

She was most likely manic at the time which makes sense she would take off her clothes, also giving her the energy and euphoric state to climb up to the water tank and close the lid behind her. She could have half-way opened it and slipped in. No one can say she couldn’t do this unless you know the lid and the circumstances around it.

The Latino guy who found her said he found the hatch opened and the lid opened. The media got it wrong and it just went incorrectly viral.

Just a sad ending to mental illness.
Maria A
Maria A:
I would love to see another video like this one! The JonBenet Ramsey and Caylee Anthony cases are very interesting as well.
Dreamy:]
Dreamy:]:
It looked like she was talking to someone when she walked out the elevator
Pippa87
Pippa87:
I think it’s pretty clear that no matter how much evidence is provided to the contrary, people will assume it was Murder/supernatural/foul play. And I think that’s a result of the media involvement. 🤷🏽‍♀️
AJ Parker
AJ Parker:
I was at the hotel during this time and I remember the cameras were not functioning properly that day because I had to have them review tape because I had lost my luggage
You
You:
I always thought it was the elevator game, but this seems more reasonable
Chelssums
Chelssums:
Omg I actually like this style of video. You’re getting sooo creative. You should do more of these and “debunk” a lot of the buzzfeed murders/ murders in general that people claim to be as a result of ghosts and aliens haha... please do the one with the woman who combusted in her living room chair but her feet weren’t burned!! It’s a buzzfeed one.
ola
ola:
Great video! As a psychologist I would even say that it’s psychosis rather than a manic episode. Those with a bipolar disorder diagnosis can also experience psychotic features. Her slow motions and her being shown in the video talking to someone tells me it’s probably psychosis rather than mania.
Edit: as I watched more of the video I heard that you did mention that 😊
Oppressor MK2
Oppressor MK2:
Too interesting, I really really wish you did more of these kinds of videos ;)
Michael Grimes
Michael Grimes:
Drug addicts/former active addicts dont see much mystery here...
It's crazy how what people are naive towards they just cant understand.
angel ramirezz
angel ramirezz:
idk i think she seen something that she wasn’t supposed to and she ran into the elevator to hide it to go on another floor. this story just doesn’t sit right with me whatsoever
Yunalesca Dalusung
Yunalesca Dalusung:
during the surveilance footage, i felt this heavy, dark, energy. It was weird, like there was pressure on my chest and evreything. This case creeps me out a lot more than other cases.
Aidyn Byrne
Aidyn Byrne:
that video of her in the elevator gave me chills so freaky
duncan512_food&drink
duncan512_food&drink:
Great video. I came here after watching the Netflix series wanting more answers about the meds she was (or wasnt) taking. This would have been a great addition to the series rather than too much time devoted to crack-pots! A+ MedBros
Anastasia Evan
Anastasia Evan:
bruh- imagine being missing, found 3 weeks later and nobody knows how you went missing.. what happend to you or what youve been through before that happend..
Patrick James Calimag
Patrick James Calimag:
There's a theory she played the elevator game.
C Fong
C Fong:
So ultimately someone lost their mind which in turn caused a whole load of inet sleuths to lose their minds.Wow man.
Dėvíł _ Tãłē
Dėvíł _ Tãłē:
That means the ghost is a banshee if it stalks
Jamie L.
Jamie L.:
I'd be mentally screwed myself if i had been drinking that water
Lazy beach bum
Lazy beach bum:
You're going to be a good doctor or detective.
Ethereal Empress
Ethereal Empress:
I have so many questions about this. After being seen at the elevator, I hen ending up where she was found was a mission. You mean to tell me that cameras, nor ppl saw this woman walking around. She didn't set off any emergency alarms that would alert the hotel?.